The Matrix Thread Revisited

I read (on wikipedia, so you have to believe it) that the new movie would involve Neil and the Squigglies joining forces to enter the sauce.

You ignorant saucepan. Kneel and his girlfriend Manatee fought all the Officer Smitts so they could escape the Munix and restore the Sauce as it has been done 78 times before, ergo, the Father of the Munix was right.

-HECK!

Torch the Sauce! Torch the Sauce!

Those were good times. Good times.

neil is the one!!!

I ordered a second hand copy of the Ultimate Matrix Blu-Ray set a while back. I don't have it. Thought I'd better. They sent me the wrong thing at first, so they're re-sending it. Can't wait, I'm going to have a marathon with my daughter. 19 months is plenty old to learn the awesomeness that is The Matrix. Also, it's about time she learned about disappointment when it comes to the sequels.

You can get the three movies in a set for an okay price, but it seems they've stopped selling the 6 (or 7?) disc blu-ray set. I could be wrong. In fact, I probably am.

I got the Matrix on Blue Ray, but it's in some weird letter box format and it pisses me off.

The original movie? I wonder if that was an early blu-ray release. I mean... seriously, they'd have to have released a new version if that was the case.

I'm surprised that still happens with blu-rays. Early DVDs, you kind of expect it, but that kind of stuff should all be ironed out by now.

I want to watch the Animatrix in HD. I haven't seen it since it came out, barely remember any of it. Just the chick in the g-string at the start.

I still watch it on DVD on a computer from time to time. I skip most of them, but enjoy the last one with the Robot they turn "good" with all the mind control mumbo jumbo.

The art on that one is funky and the story line cool. Everyone in the story dies but the one robot, but his eyes are green at the end and he waits on the rocky beach to turn others good.

It's funny how little I remember of The Animatrix. I was geeking out big before the sequels came out, you'd think I'd have just watching it repeatedly, but nothing comes to mind except the opening scene (which had slick animation - not much story).

I just got my blu-rays in the mail yesterday. Finally figured out what the letterboxing thing Whidden was talking about is. They just kept it in the original aspect ratio, so the result is black boxes at the top and bottom. I need a wider TV, I guess.

I watched part of Animatrix. It was fun, looks great on blu-ray. Didn't finish it, too long. Will see if I can watch it all later sometime. The Matrix itself has a bunch of commentaries, and one in particular is like an enhanced movie mode with a picture-in-picture window that has all these interviews with the directors and people involved in the movie.

On a minus side, the packaging is piss poor. The box itself is cool enough, but the discs are housed in these little mini blu-ray cases that aren't so cool.

One of the most annoying lines in the Matrix is this: "This line is tapped, so I must be brief. They got to you first, but they've underestimated how important you are. If they knew what I know, you'd probably be dead."

Every time I get to that part of the movie, I think... Morpheus, are you an idiot? You just said the line was tapped! Are you TRYING to get Neo killed, you moron?

While I've got The Matrix on my mind, there's a few things I don't get. I mean, how the fuck does it work? I mean do you live your entire life, from birth to death, inside the Matrix? Is your real body the same age as your body in the Matrix? If so, I assume everybody has parents. If they do, how does that work?

I mean how are new babies created within the Matrix? Do the machines just randomly grow new babies inside humans in the real world? Or does it follow the pattern that if someone gets pregnant in The Matrix, they get pregnant in real life? If that's the case, how do they make sure that the same bodies, that randomly meet within the Matrix, are the ones who get impregnated. Take me for example. I've moved to a whole new country and had a kid. If I was in the Matrix, my real-world body would probably not be anywhere near the real-world body of my wife.

It's non-sense, I tell you.

Not to mention all the people that Neo kills in the movie. I mean pretty early on in the movie Morpheus establishes that people in the Matrix are real people, used as batteries by the machines. But these are real people. They also establish that if you die in the Matrix, you die in real life. Then they act like it's nothing, and just go around killing people left right and center. Insanity! Sure they're in a computer simulation, but they're killing really people here!!!

1. Haters of The Matrix will be shunned by all Inreview members, no exceptions. That is straight from Marc Flemming and Sean Kelly. Deal with it!!!

2. Mods K.J. and Fuscia are authorized to ban anyone who speaks negative ideas about The Matrix. Mods Dreamzwalker and the one with the pirate name are questionable.

3. There are fields, vast fields, where humans are not born, but harvested. This is mentioned in Matrix 1 and shown in Matrix 3 when they fly to the machine city, zero 1 or whatever they called it.

4. Neo kills at will, cause he is fighting the system. The ones he kills are living in a pod anyway and are eating dead baby black goo to sustain them. Neo knows they would rather die than live like batteries in a gooey pod of cannibalistic gunky stuff.

5. There might have been an 1899 matrix. I remember a thread on it, and heated debate, but I thought the idea was bogus.

6. People age in the Matrix as they do in the pod.

7. All of your questions will be answered by a Colonel Sanders looking dude after you enter a white room. He will give you a choice, but don't listen to him, just go with you gut feelings and piss him off.

Colonel Sanders knew nothing!! He just stood there saying "ergo" over and over again!

Well, humans are harvested, you see that in the original movie. The machine comes down and swallows the pod with the human in it. That doesn't answer HOW the dude got there in the first place. Even if they create the humans themselves, what do they do? Just randomly connect the newly formed human in the pod with some new born baby in the Matrix? If that's the case, then nobody is really related in The Matrix. Neo's parents aren't his parents. Fair enough, but then who is Neo? If he was just created by the machines, then he's not really human.

But then it could partially explain why he could affect the squigglies outside of the Matrix. That part also always confused me.

Ergo!

I would think that anyone born in the Matrix has real parents, but they are sperm and egg from random pod people.

The parents in the Matrix would just be random assigned parents.

"Real" mom and dad would probably never even know each other, but their sperm and eggs would be taken by machines and then off to the plantation for growing and harvest.

Neo is part human, mostly human, all human. However, he is the ONE, which means that all the bad math from the Matrix (bad math created by choice) is funneled into him when he dies at Agent Smiths hands and he becomes THE ONE.

The ONE shows up from time to time, despite the creators of the Matrix trying to make it not happen. When they don't give the humans choice, a Heaven or Hell version of the Matrix will fail. Nothing will work.

They give them choice, and it works, but all the bad math generates The ONE on it's own and they try to control that by forcing the new super God One to settle down in Zion and take some babes with him, start the human race over again in the real world.

Neo is the first "ONE" to say "no" to the system, and he just goes back to the Matrix.

The ultimate question is "what is the bad math" that the Matrix has to get rid of? It's probably something spiritual. The machines are masters at math, but you add in the soul or human spirit or whatever, and the willpower they have suppressed for years goes into the One.

If the One does not go back to the source and scatter all his code and spirit, etc. into the random ether of the machine mainframe, the Matrix will crash again.

===Colonel Whidden

Do the ports, connectors and stuff grow in utero, or do the machines add those in later?

I am of the thought that the USB ports in the humans are grown while in the giant egg growing on the plantation. When harvested, baby goes to goo pod and is hooked up to various cables.

Wouldn't it be ironic if all the power the machines harvest from the humans basically was put to work in growing humans, dealing with their biology (humans need food to produce energy, they must be fed by tubes, which means the food needs to be created or harvested by the machines, not to mention our waste matter needs to go somewhere - probably was where Neo ended up when he came into the real world at the start of the first movie. Eww...).

All this effort just to create these 'batteries'. It's not like the squigglies have much more going on... so they're essentially using us as batteries for the express purpose of taking care of us and creating more humans. Weird.

the aenghines of ht ematrix are base don the sentionals and the merovingian, when they went ahaead an got the ariachietect. yes. deal witAHY that.