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gaboman
Number of posts : 9748 Age : 43 Where I am : 台北市 Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2007-01-23
| Subject: Inception (2010) Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:43 pm | |
| Trailer's here: http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/inception/From writer/director Christopher Nolan, who brought us The Dark Knight... It looks great, doesn't really say what it's about, but looks interesting enough. Your mind is the scene of the crime. I dunno, it could easily suck but it doesn't look like it will. | |
| | | gaboman
Number of posts : 9748 Age : 43 Where I am : 台北市 Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2007-01-23
| Subject: Re: Inception (2010) Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:02 pm | |
| This movie was pretty bad ass. I was expecting a decent movie alright, but I thought it was pretty cool. One thing I don't think worked is the time difference in the dream states that they were talking about. Sometimes it went on longer than it should have; other times it dragged.
There were also some things I didn't understand, including why the hell you would go into 'limbo' if you died in these dreams but not others. They had an answer, I remember hearing it, but it was so half-assed that I totally forgot it.
But overall it was an exciting little movie, and I teared up a couple of times. | |
| | | Schmiggens
Number of posts : 1397 Age : 43 Where I am : 'Straylia Reputation : 14 Registration date : 2007-11-16
| Subject: Re: Inception (2010) Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:19 am | |
| They went to limbo instead of waking up because of the sedative. Its not an episode of 24, they dint show everything that happened in all 4 dream states, just the relevant things, so some scenes in each dream state got more screen time than others, the time shown and time taken wasn't necessarily relative. My only nit-picking (to-date) is why they had to "kick" Leo into the bath at the beginning of the movie? If the kick is about the sensation of falling, shouldn't he have just woken up from them pushing the chair over? Wasn't pushing him into a bath of water overkill? Joseph Gordon-Levitt is my new celeb crush. He's such a cutie. Yes. And yes, I felt the need to post my response with the aid of visual graphics. I am feeling in a picture kind of mood. Deal with it. | |
| | | Schmiggens
Number of posts : 1397 Age : 43 Where I am : 'Straylia Reputation : 14 Registration date : 2007-11-16
| Subject: Re: Inception (2010) Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:25 am | |
| One more pic: | |
| | | gaboman
Number of posts : 9748 Age : 43 Where I am : 台北市 Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2007-01-23
| Subject: Re: Inception (2010) Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:38 pm | |
| Good pics. I forgot about the sedative. Absolutely right there.
I think the bathtub is for safety. I mean also the cold and water would help him regain himself quicker, but like... pushing a chair over you'll go down with a thumb. Bathtub seemed pretty safe or safe-ish.
That's probably not it.
I still don't get why when you go to limbo you don't just kill yourself and you'll be taken away. I reckon it'd be obvious that it's not reality, especially if you had your totum. But what do I know.
I read some complaints that Leo and his wife were old when they put themselves on the train tracks but towards the end - even though you already know they're old - they still look young. I don't think this is so much of a problem, it's just showing you who they are or were; it's not so much a mistake I don't think as artistic license and that. | |
| | | Schmiggens
Number of posts : 1397 Age : 43 Where I am : 'Straylia Reputation : 14 Registration date : 2007-11-16
| Subject: Re: Inception (2010) Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:07 am | |
| Yeah, they got old but then they weren't actually old, because the limbo isn't real, so even if you grew old in limbo when you woke up, you'd still be young, because even though you spent 20 years in limbo or whatever, you only spent like a few hours asleep.
What I don't understand about limbo, is why they built it all, if its a shared state for anyone who goes down while they're pick-pocketing peoples dreams, why aren't there random people there from other dreams adding their stuff to limbo? But it's all just stuff that Leo and his wife built, at least it is when Leo and Ellen Page go there. Surely this team isn't the only dream-invading team in the world, so shouldn't there be other people in limbo?
Also, in the beginning when Leo goes back for old Ken Watanbe, he's found by the soldier on the beach, but why is he on the beach like that? He's already in limbo when he kills his wife to go looking for Ken, he's in their apartment, how does he end up on the beach? Ken Watanbe's limbo looks like his house from his first dream and he has other people there, guards, so why aren't there any other people in limbo when Leo and his wife are there before she died? Is Ken Watanbe's limbo the same limbo as Leo's limbo? Can they visit each other's limbo houses? Are Ken's guards just populated by his subconscious? He shouldn't be able to populate limbo with his subconscious, it's not his dream, its shared limbo. Can't they only populate their own dreams? SO where do his guards come from? Are they the other dream-invaders from the world, if so, why would you be working as a guard for Ken Watanbe? Wouldn't you be out building your own dream world like Leo and his wife did?
Mind fuck, mind fuck, mind fuck .... | |
| | | Schmiggens
Number of posts : 1397 Age : 43 Where I am : 'Straylia Reputation : 14 Registration date : 2007-11-16
| Subject: Re: Inception (2010) Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:13 am | |
| - Schmiggens wrote:
- Yeah, they got old but then they weren't actually old, because the limbo isn't real, so even if you grew old in limbo when you woke up, you'd still be young, because even though you spent 20 years in limbo or whatever, you only spent like a few hours asleep.
And also, it's a dream, so you can look however you want in a dream, you never had a dream where you were black? Or hot? Or bald? Or something you're not? You can look however you want to look, can't you? Old? Young? Whatever? - Schmiggens wrote:
- What I don't understand about limbo, is why they built it all, if its a shared state for anyone who goes down while they're pick-pocketing peoples dreams, why aren't there random people there from other dreams adding their stuff to limbo? But it's all just stuff that Leo and his wife built, at least it is when Leo and Ellen Page go there. Surely this team isn't the only dream-invading team in the world, so shouldn't there be other people in limbo?
Also, in the beginning when Leo goes back for old Ken Watanbe, he's found by the soldier on the beach, but why is he on the beach like that? He's already in limbo when he kills his wife to go looking for Ken, he's in their apartment, how does he end up on the beach? Ken Watanbe's limbo looks like his house from his first dream and he has other people there, guards, so why aren't there any other people in limbo when Leo and his wife are there before she died? Is Ken Watanbe's limbo the same limbo as Leo's limbo? Can they visit each other's limbo houses? Are Ken's guards just populated by his subconscious? He shouldn't be able to populate limbo with his subconscious, it's not his dream, its shared limbo. Can't they only populate their own dreams? SO where do his guards come from? Are they the other dream-invaders from the world, if so, why would you be working as a guard for Ken Watanbe? Wouldn't you be out building your own dream world like Leo and his wife did?
Mind fuck, mind fuck, mind fuck .... Did what I was saying even make sense? Its a legitimate question on my head, but hard to write coherently as it's a question within a question within a question .... within a question....I think that's all. | |
| | | gaboman
Number of posts : 9748 Age : 43 Where I am : 台北市 Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2007-01-23
| Subject: Re: Inception (2010) Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:40 pm | |
| I get what you mean. There's a lot of things about the whole limbo thing that don't make much sense. But I think partly you could say because it's a dream, it's excusable. I think.
I mean if the end of the movie is a dream and/or limbo, then it stands to reason t hat if Leo could add his father-in-law and kids into his limbo, Ken could add the guards. Perhaps they're part of his subconscious that have come down with him. He was obviously prepared for Leo and little-kid-from-Home-Improvement at the start of the movie, so he knows what he's doing.
Also, I think as limbo fell apart for Leo and Kitty, and she got the kick and he didn't, he just ended up in the water. Then washed up on the beach.
But one thing is, I still say if the end of the movie is a dream, I reckon that would mean the whole movie would have to be a dream. Not to mention, in his dream he could never get the kids to turn around. | |
| | | Schmiggens MKII
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| Subject: Re: Inception (2010) Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:43 pm | |
| He couldn't get the kids to turn around in his dreams because of the guilt over what he did to his wife. Once he had forgiven himself for planting the thought in her brain and being responsible for her death, he could let himself see his kids again. So even if he is just dreaming about his kids, in the end he got what he wanted, whether it was real or not, he's happy.
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| | | Schmiggens
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| Subject: Re: Inception (2010) Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:08 am | |
| This is kind of interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVkQ0C4qDvMI had Non je et Regrette Nion stuck in my head all night after watching the movie. They're saying this is a shoe-in for winning best score at the Oscars. | |
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