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Whidden
Number of posts : 7218 Age : 56 Where I am : THE DARK TOWER Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2007-01-24
| Subject: Human Animals. Right or Wrong? Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:00 pm | |
| For years, they have been growing human organs in pigs. Splicing salmon dna into tomatos, so they can grow below zero temps. At what point does it become monstrous? Sure, we get medical benefits, like some nice new organs for sick people. But does the benefit outweigh the disgusting aspects of creating a human being that is part animal? This is more that Micheal J. Fox getting some fetal tissue to put in his brain, to help with Parkinsons. This is a creature what is actually breathing. How long before we got talking sheep, talking dogs, animals with human souls? All bred for us to harvest organs. It's not pure animal, it's part human. I think it's sick as hell myself. Freaky: Lab Sheep are 15 Percent HumanAuthor Robert Roy BrittAccording to an article in The Mail, scientists have created sheep with half their organs being human and, overall, 15 per cent human cells. Now that’s freaky. But there’s potential scientific benefit, the scientist say: They aim to match the DNA in transplantable organs from a sheep to a particular transplant patient, improving the odds of a successful transplant by reducing the chance the patient’s body will reject the foreign organ. The work, at the University of Nevada-Reno, has been going on for many months. The latest news on the sheep comes just as a debate has flared over interspecies cloning, in which researchers are trying to put human DNA into animal species eggs in order do study human diseases without using human eggs. Some say all this sort of work is morally wrong. Others just think it’s creepy. And some point out potential risk such as new types of viruses being introduced into the human population. “Many silent viruses could create a biological nightmare in humans. Mutant animal viruses are a real threat, as we have seen with HIV,” said atrick Dixon, an international lecturer on biological trends, in the Mail article. | |
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Number of posts : 6497 Age : 46 Where I am : Off the deep end Reputation : 10 Registration date : 2007-01-24
| Subject: Re: Human Animals. Right or Wrong? Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:09 pm | |
| Do what we need to animals to further the human race. Cry about them later. -HECK! | |
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Whidden
Number of posts : 7218 Age : 56 Where I am : THE DARK TOWER Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2007-01-24
| Subject: Re: Human Animals. Right or Wrong? Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:12 pm | |
| yeah, an animal, but thats the point. It aint animal no more. It's partial animal, part human. It's 15% us. This aint a sheep. It's a sheep/human. Or human/sheep. Or human/pig. Damn thing should be covered by the constitution. | |
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Number of posts : 6497 Age : 46 Where I am : Off the deep end Reputation : 10 Registration date : 2007-01-24
| Subject: Re: Human Animals. Right or Wrong? Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:16 pm | |
| What part of it is human though? It has some cells, a few graphed on parts, maybe an organ or two? Meh. I've heard of people gettle pig heart valves, do they start wallowing in slop because they're 5% pig? What makes us human? Blood and tissue, mind and soul, cock 'n balls? I don't care if this sheep is doing the Charleston with a top hat and cigar, it's still a sheep. Pull an Island Of Dr. Moreau and use stem cells as deoderant if it will cure cancer. -HECK! | |
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Whidden
Number of posts : 7218 Age : 56 Where I am : THE DARK TOWER Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2007-01-24
| Subject: Re: Human Animals. Right or Wrong? Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:22 pm | |
| A pig valve is like a titanium valve, it's something physical added to the body. It's almost like wearing a leather jacket, but more invasive. DNA splicing is something toatally different. To splice your DNA with a pig, you would be part pig/part human. Which is cool I guess as long as you still got civil rights, etc. Though I wouldn't do it. They pop some pig DNA in, and you grow a pig valve, you are now part pig, part human. You are a hybrid. The only difference between you and the 15 percent human is you have more of a percentence that the 15 percent dude. And he has no rights. They cut him up, take his organs, and eat the sheep part. Or put it in dog food. Just aint right in Whid's book. The 15 percent sheep is partial human, it's part of our species. I feel sorry for the poor bastard. | |
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Number of posts : 6497 Age : 46 Where I am : Off the deep end Reputation : 10 Registration date : 2007-01-24
| Subject: Re: Human Animals. Right or Wrong? Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:26 pm | |
| I see it as using animals to further the human race. If we are DNA splicing to basically use a sheep as a organ growing machine so some dude's transplanted organ doesn't fail, then let's rock. But like I said before, 15% human... what does that entail exactly? If it had a human brain, could talk or walk on two legs, grow a mustache or make a fire, then we can talk about remorse. Until then I don't see a prob. -HECK! | |
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Whidden
Number of posts : 7218 Age : 56 Where I am : THE DARK TOWER Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2007-01-24
| Subject: Re: Human Animals. Right or Wrong? Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:33 pm | |
| yeah, but this aint 15% of some etheral substance, this is 15% of who and what we are.
15% of the thing that make us human. You start mixing this up and it's a crap shoot. Sure this dude/sheep might not have the fundalmental grasp of what it is to like an Elvis song, but it's still in some way related to us. It's no longer just some animal that we can kill at will to eat.
It's partial human, which in my book enables it to some kind of special protection, some kind of rights. I don't think it should be done in the first place.
Growing something like that is montrous to me, but hell, killing it, whatever it is, so we can harverst it's organs, now we create a human/animal hybrid, then kill it for medical reasons. I just aint cool with it at all.
It's not like a dead guy, that puts organ donor on his card, and gets them organs taken after he dies, this sheep/dude they got, this guy is gonna get whacked in the name of science. Poor fella. | |
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Number of posts : 6497 Age : 46 Where I am : Off the deep end Reputation : 10 Registration date : 2007-01-24
| Subject: Re: Human Animals. Right or Wrong? Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:41 pm | |
| I hear what you're saying and know your heart is in the right place but look at this: That doesn't look like anyone I know. See, the cells aren't being fused. This isn't a hybrid. It's a chimera. Two completely distinct populations of cells, which are genetically unique. These sheep with the human cells won't have human characteristics. If there was celluar fusion then yeah, we'd have our part human sheep. This is more like a sheep just happens to be walking around with some human DNA inside of it. It's not combining, rather the contrary. -HECK! | |
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Number of posts : 6497 Age : 46 Where I am : Off the deep end Reputation : 10 Registration date : 2007-01-24
| Subject: Re: Human Animals. Right or Wrong? Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:46 pm | |
| Regardless though, if it does get the point where we have some crazy mix of animal/human monster things, that ain't cool. -HECK! | |
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Whidden
Number of posts : 7218 Age : 56 Where I am : THE DARK TOWER Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2007-01-24
| Subject: Re: Human Animals. Right or Wrong? Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:53 pm | |
| Let me ask this. If they killed poor fellow up there ( ), er, sheep dude, whatever he is, and they put the meat that was not the organ tissue, that is, just the muscle tissue they normally serve up, would you eat it? And if not him, if it was a human/cow hybrid, and you found out some of the meat got into the food supply, would you still eat hamburgers, or would it be something to think about? | |
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Number of posts : 6497 Age : 46 Where I am : Off the deep end Reputation : 10 Registration date : 2007-01-24
| Subject: Re: Human Animals. Right or Wrong? Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:14 pm | |
| Well I don't eat sheep normally... unless they apart of hot dogs so I'm not sure... but I really don't have the scientific info. to say whether I would chow down on this thing or not. But I wouldn't want to grub up on an experimental animal anyway. If it was your average beef cow that had some non-fused human cells floating around and it wouldn't cause me harm I don't see a problem eating it but then again I would avoid it when possible. -HECK! | |
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