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PostSubject: Terminator: TSCC | 2x05 | Goodbye To All That   Terminator: TSCC | 2x05 | Goodbye To All That Icon_minitimeSun Oct 12, 2008 11:52 pm

John and Derek protect a future member of the resistance at a military academy, and Weaver gives Ellison his first assignment.

Another kind of lame episode... the idea of a new Terminator coming by and them working out that it's tracking someone is interesting, but the rest of the episode was kind of 'meh'.

Also, it bugged me that the actor's name was Patrick Kilpatrick (he played the terminator). What the hell kind of name is that?
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PostSubject: Re: Terminator: TSCC | 2x05 | Goodbye To All That   Terminator: TSCC | 2x05 | Goodbye To All That Icon_minitimeMon Oct 13, 2008 9:36 pm

Had some cool guns in it though. Burning him in a tar pit was lame, but when they head shot him, that was sweet.

Thing is though, they have now sent back so many terminators, the timeline is so polluted, it's just nuts. Even the good guys don't know the goal, half the time they are trying to stop skynet and the war, and the other half, they are trying to protect people who will help John in the future, when he is the main dude in charge.
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PostSubject: Re: Terminator: TSCC | 2x05 | Goodbye To All That   Terminator: TSCC | 2x05 | Goodbye To All That Icon_minitimeTue Oct 14, 2008 2:16 am

Wouldn't the tar just perfectly preserve the terminator so it can be extracted and studied by scientists so they can develop super-AI computers?

You're right about the focus of the story completely losing it. I mean, if the future terminators wanted to really fuck with the rebels they could send some terminators back with instructions somewhere along the lines of "find such-and-such a person, he's a scientist. Show him your CPU and everything, let him design more based off your chip..."

Will render everything these folks are doing to save the future useless.

They don't even seem to have a date laid out for D-Day at the moment. It's just like "oh, in the future sometime..."

This show's alright, but it could have been so much more under some other group of writer's direction.
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PostSubject: Re: Terminator: TSCC | 2x05 | Goodbye To All That   Terminator: TSCC | 2x05 | Goodbye To All That Icon_minitimeTue Oct 14, 2008 10:14 am

Way too many paradoxes. More than one skynet in the future.

At least 3 or 4 seperate and distinct John Conner timelines.


Batman is going to have a hard time in the new Trilogy trying to explain all the different timeline, and for that matter which timeline version of John Conner he really is....

1. First John Conner, untouched by any time travel at all.
2. The John Conner from the First Two Terminator movies, that winds up in the park at the end with his 70 something mother, pushing a kid on a swing, a cheese eating senator? (on the special DVD set)
See that scene here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cig1x3ZOxAU

3. The John Conner from the silly and useless Terminator 3?

4. The John Conner from the series, who has traveled to present day.
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PostSubject: Re: Terminator: TSCC | 2x05 | Goodbye To All That   Terminator: TSCC | 2x05 | Goodbye To All That Icon_minitimeTue Oct 14, 2008 10:58 am

I get that it's a never ending battle between

John Conner aka Jesus Christ

and

Sky Net aka Satan


and that it goes on forever, but the timeline is so polluted, even with this fate concept that it's John vs. Skynet no matter what timeline it is, is getting silly. All this crap going on, it would be B166er vs. Neo or Will Smith vs. Vicky. The names and characters would change.
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PostSubject: Re: Terminator: TSCC | 2x05 | Goodbye To All That   Terminator: TSCC | 2x05 | Goodbye To All That Icon_minitimeTue Oct 14, 2008 10:15 pm

Paradoxes piss me off. That's why I fear the idea of time travel in the real world. There's a dude doing experiments on it somewhere in America. Totally forget this specifics, but I wrote an article on it years ago. He's got a real-time time machine set up that should be able to send miniscule particles back in time.

Since it's real time, though, he can only send things back and forth through the machine, meaning if it wasn't turned on or if it wasn't working correctly he couldn't send or receive stuff. But he said the particles he said could contain information if he wanted...

My fear is, if one day he gets it working and suddenly he has particles coming in from the future, would he then go? You know what... I sent these back to myself... what happens if, now that I've received them, I don't bother sending them back to myself? Would space and time unravel? Let's test this.

I'd be shitting myself.



EDIT: Dude's name is Ronald Mallett. He's been working on this shit for ages, so I don't really see him getting any breakthroughs soon... thank goodness.
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