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Post thoughts as you read... beware of spoilers.

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Not so much a review as it is a "hoo rah, I finally finished"

It was alright, overall. Not a bad way to end the whole thing. It's pretty much what a lot of people would have been expecting, though.

I don't understand how Neville ended up with the Sword of Godrick Gryffindor at the end, though. But that was handy, wasn't it?
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I like at the end how Harry calls Voldemort "Riddle." I'm like "you go Harry, KICK HIS ASS!!!!"
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I looked it up, there is a Q&A about the book and the answer to the question about how Neville got the sword is as such: "It fell on top of him when Voldemort put the Sorting Hat on top of Neville's head. Something like with Harry in CoS." Makes sense. Weird, but it makes sense.
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WHO DIES?
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That same site says this: "Petunia is revealed to have loved both Lily and Harry very much." I honestly didn't see that in the book once; she just seemed resentful of Lily's magic, and, inturn, Harry's too.

All the info on Dumbledore in the book was fascinating and interesting, but I can't help but wonder if he should've just been kept as a completely... um, well, omnipotent. Probably not, but I loved how Dumbledore just seemed like the bomb shit in the earlier books.
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And Snape's redemption... throughout the book, I was of the mind that everybody was totally wrong that he'd redeem himself because of all the shit that was going on at Hogwarts. Truth be told, I was always of the mind that him being revealed as good would be a kick in the nuts of the Harry Potter books, but it was pulled together with great care and worked out well. I didn't cry or nothing, but if any point in the book could've made me cry it would have been the part where you find out Harry names his kid after Snape. It was a nice touch.
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No mention of the veil in the Department of Mystery. Not sure what the hell the point of all that was, then.
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There's some pretty serious stuff in this book, I've got to say. There are implications that Dumbledore's sister was brutally raped (they didn't say it, of course), and Rita Skeeter at one point suggests that Harry's relationship with Dumbledore was 'unhealthy.' Some other stuff I can't recall right now too.
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The book was good, but she did not make me cry. I was surprised because at every turn there were the death eaters.

The revelations about Dumbledore's family were pretty shocking. I liked how they did not come right out and say that his sister was raped, that was a good thing for the kids.


The little guy that dies and is buried made me really sad. That was a hard death, but dang it was a blood bath wasn't it?

I did love that "we" were in the dedication of the book. It was cool.

My big question is who is Victories father?
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I went out to my folks house this weekend, my mom had the book. I flipped right to the end and just read the first few lines of the epilogue and that's all I needed to see.

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but you missed all the good stuff like about Snape!
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I know, I know. Don't tell me... I am still on the fence about reading it. Crappy thing is I have to read book 6 first. That thing is as big as a cinder block.

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Not really, HECK. Read the chapter called "The Prince's Story" or something like that, and you'll get the jist of it.

I have to say, the epilogue should have gone into more detail. You don't find out what happens to every character, and that's really a bummer.

Sherry wants to know who 'Victories father is'........ I want to know who the hell Victory is Sad huh? I totally must've missed that.
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She was the one snogging Teddy on the train.
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i'm guessing she georges daughter or something because he siad our teddy snogging our cousin.

the book was pretty good. the last chapter jus confused the hell out of me for some reason. I could picture everyone all grown up with kids named after other characters int he book, kept confusing myself. i don't know what we were supposed to find out about lily except that she was friends with snape maybe. or how draco became owner of the elder wand, or who maaged to do magic late in life.

all in all it was summed up pretty well. funny thing is books 4 5 and 6 made me cry but this on didn't and it had the most deaths and stuff. i mean i was sad at parts, and i got al ittle knot in my throat but i didnt boohoo like in the others.
oh and i'm still al ittle confused as to how dumbledores hand got cursed. i know the ring was cursed but the other dude was waering it, the dude whos house it was. i must have missed something there.

oh and how to harry save pettigrews life? lot of good that did him, him saving his life killed him in the end anyway
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Okay, I finished the book last night. FINALLY! Goodness, I couldn't go online, for fear that it would be spoiled for me, and I didn't want that.

Over all, I was quite pleased with the final installment into the life of Harry Potter. However, I was left feeling like the epiloge was missing sooooooooooooo much. WTF was that? She should have done a much longer one, and let us see more people, and their lives. We don't even know what Harry ended up doing, as a profession, after everything. And I really wanted to know.

I was ripped apart when Dobby died. Choked me up really hard. He was such a wonderful soul, and he willingly gave his life, because he truly loved Harry.

Seeing Harry reach out to Kreacher touched me deeply as well. He finally understood what Hermione was feeling, all along, for the house elves. And the change... the transformation in Kreacher was wonderful to see. Smile

The chapter, "The Prince's Tale" was the best. We got to learn so much about Snape, and I was about to blow a gasket thinking that he'd been killed, and that he wasn't on our side. Yet, all along, I've said that Snape was working for Dumbledore (Sherry did too), and we weren't wrong. He loved Lily, since they were little kids, and did everything because of that love. Voldemort never stood a chance, because he didn't know, or couldn't comprehend what love was/is.

There were some parts that were a little confusing... but I think that was more due to the fact that I was trying to read with a bunch of people talking around me, and even to me. So, I couldn't concentrate as much as other times.

JKR wrote a wonderful series, and I wasn't disappointed. I loved the end of Voldemorts life. The final stand down between him and Harry was awesome. Harry is a fine wizard, and he learned so much, because he had to. I was very proud of him. And when he willingly gave his life, to save everyone else... WOW!!! I loved the meeting between him and Dumbledore. That was touching.

I'm so glad that my boy, Draco, didn't die. And Harry saved his life. I think that they understood each other... and while they would never be friends, they respected each other.

There is so much more that I wish that JKR would have written... but it was still a wonderful book.

Funniest part of book 7 was when Harry, Ron and Hermione were going to get the horocrux of Rowena Ravenclaws, and Hermione just starts kissing Ron. Harry's comment of "Ummmm, I don't think that this is the right time for that" just cracked me up. I could totally picture it.
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Dobby was the hardest death for me too Kris. I felt bad that Lupin and Tonks left their baby an orphan, and poor Fred dying.

JK said that she intended to kill off Mr. Weasly but changed her mind.


"Mr. Weasley was due to die in Book Five," Rowling said. "I swapped him for someone else, and I don't want to say who for the people who haven't read it. But I made a decision as I went into writing 'Phoenix' that I was going to reprieve Mr. Weasley and I was going to kill someone else. And if you finish the book, I expect you probably know it's someone else who is a father."
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I have to add that I LOVED Mrs. Weasley battling Bellatrix Lestrange, and snuffing the lights out on that biotch. She definitely got what she deserved, and I couldn't think of a better person to do it. Though, I think that Neville should have had a piece of the pie on her as well.
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My big question is who is Victories father?


I thought that it was Bill and Fleur's daughter... and I was right.
Next post will be an interview that JKR did, about the future of the characters (not posted in the epilogue).
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Finished ‘Potter’? Rowling tells what happens next


Exclusive: Author gives details on events after the book’s final epilogue


By Jen Brown
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Updated: 4:38 a.m. PT July 26, 2007


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Spoiler alert: This story reveals some key plot points in the final Harry Potter book. So if you've haven't finished the book, J.K. Rowling asks that you not read this story.




If you found the epilogue of “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows” rather vague, then J.K. Rowling achieved her goal.

The author was shooting for “nebulous,” something “poetic.” She wanted the readers to feel as if they were looking at Platform 9¾ through the mist, unable to make out exactly who was there and who was not.



“I do, of course, have that information for you, should you require it,” she told TODAY’s Meredith Vieira rather coyly in her first interview since fans got their hands on the final book.


Ummm … yes, please!



Rowling said her original epilogue was “a lot more detailed,” including the name of every child born to the Weasley clan in the past 19 years. (Victoire, who was snogging Teddy — Lupin and Tonks’ son — is Bill and Fleur’s eldest.)



“But it didn’t work very well as a piece of writing,” Rowling said. “It felt very much that I had crowbarred in every bit of information I could … In a novel you have to resist the urge to tell everything.”



But now that the seventh and final novel is in the hands of her adoring public, Rowling no longer has to hold back any information about Harry Potter from her fans. And when 14 fans crowded around her in Edinburgh Castle in Scotland earlier this week as part of TODAY’s interview, Rowling was more than willing to share her thoughts about what Harry and his friends are up to now.



Harry, Ron and Hermione



We know that Harry marries Ginny and has three kids, essentially, as Rowling explains, creating the family and the peace and calm he never had as a child.



As for his occupation, Harry, along with Ron, is working at the Auror Department at the Ministry of Magic. After all these years, Harry is now the department head.



“Harry and Ron utterly revolutionized the Auror Department,” Rowling said. “They are now the experts. It doesn’t matter how old they are or what else they’ve done.”



Meanwhile, Hermione, Ron’s wife, is “pretty high up” in the Department of Magical Law Enforcement, despite laughing at the idea of becoming a lawyer in “Deathly Hallows.”



“I would imagine that her brainpower and her knowledge of how the Dark Arts operate would really give her a sound grounding,” Rowling said.



Harry, Ron and Hermione don’t join the same Ministry of Magic they had been at odds with for years; they revolutionize it and the ministry evolves into a “really good place to be.”



“They made a new world,” Rowling said.



The wizarding naturalist

Luna Lovegood, the eccentric Ravenclaw who was fascinated with Crumple-Horned Snorkacks and Umgubular Slashkilters, continues to march to the beat of her own drum.


“I think that Luna is now traveling the world looking for various mad creatures,” Rowling said. “She’s a naturalist, whatever the wizarding equivalent of that is.”



Luna comes to see the truth about her father, eventually acknowledging there are some creatures that don’t exist.



“But I do think that she’s so open-minded and just an incredible person that she probably would be uncovering things that no one’s ever seen before,” Rowling said.



Luna and Neville Longbottom?

It’s possible Luna has also found love with another member of the D.A.


When she was first asked about the possibility of Luna hooking up with Neville Longbottom several years ago, Rowling’s response was “Definitely not.” But as time passed and she watched her characters mature, Rowling started to “feel a bit of a pull” between the unlikely pair.



Ultimately, Rowling left the question of their relationship open at the end of the book because doing otherwise “felt too neat.”



Mr. and Mrs. Longbottom: “The damage is done.”



There is no chance, however, that Neville’s parents, who were tortured into madness by Bellatrix Lestrange, ever left St. Mungo’s Hospital for Magical Maladies.



“I know people really wanted some hope for that, and I can quite see why because, in a way, what happens to Neville’s parents is even worse than what happened to Harry’s parents,” Rowling said. “The damage that is done, in some cases with very dark magic, is done permanently.”


Rowling said Neville finds happiness in his grandmother’s acceptance of him as a gifted wizard and as the new herbology professor at Hogwarts.



The fate of Hogwarts

Nineteen years after the Battle of Hogwarts, the school for witchcraft and wizardry is led by an entirely new headmaster (“McGonagall was really getting on a bit”) as well as a new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher. That position is now as safe as the other teaching posts at Hogwarts, since Voldemort’s death broke the jinx that kept a Defense Against the Dark Arts professor from remaining for more than a year.



While Rowling didn’t clarify whether Harry, Ron and Hermione ever return to school to finish their seventh year, she did say she could see Harry popping up every now and again to give the “odd talk” on Defense Against the Dark Arts.



More details to come?

Rowling said she may eventually reveal more details in a Harry Potter encyclopedia, but even then, it will never be enough to satisfy the most ardent of her fans.



“I’m dealing with a level of obsession in some of my fans that will not rest until they know the middle names of Harry’s great-great-grandparents,” she said. Not that she’s discouraging the Potter devotion!



“I love it,” she said. “I’m all for that.”
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yeah i got to thinking about it and figured it was bills kid.

some interesting stuff there. atleast that answers a few questions
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It's all very well and good for her to tells us what happened to everybody, but if it's not in the book I'm not really that impressed by it.

Bill and Fleur's kid, eh? But it just mentions her as being their cousin right? Could be anyone's kid, knowing how the Weasleys procreate. Then again, I don't care all that much. Bill and Fleur it is.
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I thought it was Percy's kid because he was mentioned, wasn't he?, as being there waiting for the train.
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Well, who knows why he was there. *shrug*

But, she said that Victorie is Bill and Fluer's. So, that's that. Wink
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